Via a post over at Autism’s Gadfly, I got to hear of someone called Christian Weston Chandler. Chandler is an autistic person who apparently is frustrated by his being a virgin at age 28. Apparently for this reason, he goes around harassing women, dressing offensively, and making homophobic, racist and sexist comments. Over at It’s Tabi’s Time, an apparent neurodiversity blog, Chandler is called a shame to the autistic community. I must say I disagree here.
What I find interesting, is that Chandler’s behavior is viewed as reflecting on the entire autistic community on both sides of the neurodiversity debate: either Chandler’s behavior is proof that autism should be cured because of its dramatic impact on sexuality, or Chandler is giving the entire autism community a bad name. Can we please start judging individual behavior and stop making it about a marginalized group the person with inappropriate behavior belongs to? No autistic male should be judged because of Chandler, and Chandler should not bear the responsibility of setting a good image for other autistics.
Of course, I am all fine with people highlighting the fact that autistic males (and females!) can be sexually frustrated. We might start looking for solutions on how to help people who are involuntarily celibate gain sexual satisfaction within the limits of the law. I would’ve hoped that it wouldn’t take a Christian Weston Chandler, who breaks the law to call attention to his sexual problems. Sexual problems are real among autistics. Please acknowledge that. A cure is not available – and besides, sexual problems exist among NTs, too. Acceptance of celibacy won’t change the fact that some autistics badly want sex. Let’s work towards solutions so that involuntarily celibate people can access sex without having to break the law. And let’s remember that if you’ve seen one sexually frustrated autistic, you’ve seen one sexually frustrated autistic. Christian Weston Chandler should not be the poster puppet for autistic involuntary celibacy.
I did not specifically say that Chandler was proof per se we need a cure, only that he is one example of many who need a cure. I am aware that no cure is currently available if there were some answers for helping him with what is currently available I would be all for it. You and Chelsea say that something should be done but apparently neither of you have solutions either. It is not a case of if you have seen one you have seen them all. Celibacy amongst some autistics is frustrating and is the same problem in those that have it.
Jonathan, what I meant by the “if you’ve seen one” thing is th t not all autistics who are sexually frustrated, will act it out in the way Chandler does. Also, I tried to pull away the focus from your look-at-this-poor-autistic-in-need-of-a-cure post towards the real problem here, that is involuntary celibacy.
“towards the real problem here, that is involuntary celibacy.”
Involuntary celibacy isn’t a problem, it’s part of the solution of the problem of rape. Having sex when you don’t want to have sex is a lot more painful than not having sex when you do want to have sex. Sometimes it can even be deadly: http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/04/09/yemen.child.bride.death/index.html
Whenever you don’t want to have sex with someone and you get to avoid sex with him or her, you might be helping make him or her involuntarily celibate. Is that a problem? Of course not! No means no, you deserve the right to not have sex you don’t want to have, and everybody else deserves that right too!
The simplest solution is to just change the law, (against prostitution). The fact that it’s illegal makes it far more sordid than it needs to be, just as Prohibition and laws against drug use have that effect.
I agree that he shouldn’t be used, by either side, as representative of anything. He’s just a sick puppy.
@ Clay: I agree about decriminalizing prostitution. Where I live, prostitution is legal, but I am aware that it is not in the U.S. As a side note, Christian Weston Chandler is a person, not a puppy.
…and what about when even prostitutes who do sex work willingly (instead of being trafficked into sex slavery where customers pay her or his pimp for opportunities to rape her or him) say no?
Like if a potential customer for prostitution gives some very creepy social cues and every prostitute he approaches doesn’t have ESP, can’t tell whether he doesn’t mean it and has Asperger’s or he does mean it is likely to hurt her in bed, and errs on the side of caution?
The bigger problem is that we ignore it instead of activley trying to do anything at all
Good post. I’ve joked before that CWC is a plot put up by the anti-cure contingent, but the reality is that one person is not representative of all autistic people, period.
“Let’s work towards solutions so that involuntarily celibate people can access sex without having to break the law.”
They can already have sex with themselves (by masturbating) without having to break the law.
Do you want to work towards solutions so that involuntarily celibate people can access sex *with other people* without having to break the law?
What about when someone is an involuntarily celibate person because everybody else, even every prostitute, is unwilling to have sex with him or her? Do you want to work towards a solution so that it’s legal for this person can access sex with an *unwilling* person (since there are no willing ones)? If so, then how would your solution decide who is forced against her or his will to have sex with this person?
CWC is the no.1 reason why society needs to find a cure for autism, or a way of identifying likely autistic children during conception so they can be aborted. Chris is so far gone that the only way to redeem himself would be to commit suicide. Partly this is down to be coddled by his parents who have put up with his disgusting ways all his life instead of laying the smack down on his shit. Had they let Greene county school board take him out of mainstream education he may of got the help he needed to at least resemble a worthwhile human being. This is a man(child) that amongst other things-
Has humped a sex doll / his PS3 and put it on the youtube.
Told a female on IRC he would have sexual intercourse with a dog (a collie to be precise).
Aliented his only good female friend by being “over familiar”, then when she refused his advances he drew explicit artwork of her.
Autism is no excuse for being a disgusting human being.
Wow, CtC. What you posted was very ignorant and you contradicted yourself, too. You said it, autism is no excuse for being a disgusting human being. And most autistics are not like that either. Obviously CWC was capable of much more than he has turned out to be. It does not mean we need to find a cure or prenatal testing, you ableist pig. It means that autistics need to have more attention from the school system and given a chance to find the right people to be friends with. A lot of autistics end up this way because they too can be spoiled brats; and many parents think that because of their autism, they are incapable of adapting, which is horribly wrong.
Right on!
CWC is the most innovative, hilarous, creative, wonderful person i have ever heard of. The filthy trolls that slander his good name should be dragged out into the street to be publicly executed. I’m not being sarcastic, either. All those trolls are doing is mocking and ridiculing a person with a disability and using things that he has said in the past to justify it by labeling him as sexist or racist or homophobic or whatever.
Have you ever read the OTHER pages on that ED web site? They dare call HIM racist and homophobic?
People like that make me ashamed of the human race.
I’m Autistic, you prick.
The real problem isn’t autistic people. Naturally, there are some autistic assholes, but the majority of autistic people are naturally endowed with better temperaments than NT people from my experience. The real problem is that the vast majority of NT are ignorant of how arbitrary their social rules are. For autistics who aren’t smart enough or strong willed enough (learning it takes possibly hundreds of trial and error rejections) to learn your social rules, they are treated like assholes no matter how useful they are to society. So there is no more incentive to be good citizens. I would guess that most NT put under that kind of stress would turn out a lot worse than most autistics.
I view any sort of autistic “cure” as a black man would view a “cure” for black babies.
Brendan, you autists should be exterminated. You are a blight on the human race, and must be eliminated to maintain our genetic integrity.
CWC is one of the worst of the lot. He’s what you get when you autistic retards are allowed to develop naturally, woefully ignorant of the “arbitrary” social code of conduct that you so deplore.
You’ll never be a normal, productive member of society, and neither will Christian Weston Chandler. You’re a leech, nothing but a drain on limited resources, and should be put to death for your utter uselessness.
If you really want to do the world a favor, fucking kill yourself, you autistic waste of flesh.
Vinnie, my son,
I warned you about outing yourself in this way. I’m afraid you’ll have to come home now.
BTW, me and You Know Who just started up this neat work exchange program. He sends me his autistics, and they come down here and learn how to use a hammer (they’re pretty amazing really, they just keep at it–very productive, actually…I think you will learn a thing or two from them). Oh, and sorry to do this to you, but you’ll be acting as the nail.
See ya soon,
Dad
“they are treated like assholes no matter how useful they are to society.”
Hurting other people instead of paying attention to the social rules about what tends to hurt other people *makes* you *less* useful to society, since society includes the people you’re hurting!
For example:
http://www.boston.com/jobs/news/jobdoc/2010/10/not_a_tattletale.html?comments=all#readerComm
“…Frankly, these situations always require some careful consideration of good judgment and seeing the bigger picture. The workplace — and organizations themselves — thrive when conditions of trust and collaboration develop. We are social creatures and social dynamics do end up being a part of the workplace (and I don’t mean the downtime socializing or water-cooler talk, but in the effectiveness of working together and achieving goals beyond one’s own job).
“Do not take the ‘each man for himself’ approach and start throwing colleagues under the bus. If you must point out their errors, don’t gloat and also make sure you give credit where credit is due.
“Those who are territorial, go over others’ heads, throw others under the bus and think it’s all about their own work product that will get him/her rewarded and praised in the end, are sorely mistaken. Good senior management will see that these people are often toxic. These people will wonder why they are not promoted and find themselves boxed into very specific roles and be kept out of closed door meetings. …Not always (especially if a bad business culture is already pervasive throughout the organization) — but often.
“These people can even start to stick out like a sore thumb. Sometimes they seem oblivious to this. They will slip into a pattern in the way they treat people that highly differentiates all those who they feel are above them versus below them. Their behavior toward ‘the above’ and ‘the below’ will be starkly different. They will appear, in behavior, to have no peers…”
“CWC is the no.1 reason why society needs to find a cure for autism”
“Autism is no excuse for being a disgusting human being.”
Wait, I’m confused? Is his autism the primary reason for his problem or isn’t it?
I have never met anyone who was as far gone as Chris Chan (especially not autistic people). Even the low functioning autistics that I know are much harder working and much better people than Chris. Chris’s problems stem mostly (not partly) from his parents and their lack of parenting skills and their lack of trust towards therapy. Even if he didn’t have autism, I bet he would have still become a complete waste of human life.
And exactly how does aborting autistic foetuses prevent people from becoming disgusting pieces of shit? What makes an autistic person more susceptible to being like this? The problem is not autism. The problem is that he COULD have been a better person if he worked harder and if his parents tried harder, but they didn’t give a shit.
We need to cure apathy, not abort autistics.
You seem to have misunderstood why people think he is a blight. He reflects poorly on the rest of the autistic people in the world because he is extremely vocal on the internet. he is a sexist, homophobic rascist none of which can be blamed on his virginity. He clearly does not need his sexual frustration dealt with he needs psychiatric care for responding to attempts to help him become a functioning member of society and not a welfare leach.
Im on your side on that statement. As me being someone with aspergers I find this article to be the most insulting thing i have ever read! WHAT CHRIS CHAN HAS DONE IS UNFORGIVABLE, AND ANYONE WHO ACTS IN THE WAY HE DOES AND USES THEIR AUTISM AS AN EXCUSE FOR EVERYTHING THEY DO IN THE WAY CHRIS CHAN DOES IS/ARE MY MORTAL ENEMY/ENEMIES!
In addition Christian Weston CHandler is not only a scum of both the autistic community and any other possible civilization that exsists in the universe besides the human race, but a living representation of the 7 Deadly Sins
0/10, your trolling is of abysmal quality.
please leave the internet at once.
I’ve got a damn good response to this pitiful man and his idiotic ways. Now let’s get this ball rolling. I suffer from the whole aspergers syndrome thing and rate quite high on the spectrum yet not high enough to not be classified as something else, yet this son of a bitch who is at minimal a decade older than I am claims to be a whole multitude of things. He claims creativity, tolerance of other cultures, and the whole thing that makes one sane and a quaint member of society. Talk about being full of shit. He’s a racist by default by always claiming to be on a love quest and that people whom are any ethnicity other than Caucasian or Asian need not apply. He’s homophobic by always yelling that homo sexuals all need to be wiped from the Earth. He’s a pedophile by a very twisted means due to the fact he actually posted a video ON YOUTUBE of him masturbating to a poster of Chibi-usa and Sailor Moon (two characters from the hit Japanese series Sailor Moon with Chibi-usa being only 8 years of age and Sailor Moon’s daughter placed there by time-warp, and Sailor Moon herself being at about 16 years of age.) and reposting it every single time it gets taken down due to being flagged and violating the laws of use. Now lastly his creativity is nil seeing as how all he does is mope around his house doodle pictures using a tracing board, pornography, crayons, childrens video game and cartoon series, anal lubricant, and tissues to sit back and wait for government provided welfare money to do things for him. For dirt’s sake this man is literally a prime candidate to be the next Adolf Hitler due to his Anti-Semitic ways and his perverse lust for those younger than he is. He is not a man who needs a cure for autism or aspergers. Nay he is a man who just needs to be destroyed while we develop a cure for abnormal stupidity or just let evolution continue to do what it has done since we were apes by letting us fall from trees and have the weak break their skulls open on fucking rocks and twigs. So go Old Yeller on him, take him out back and fucking shoot him. Thank you.
Well being a high functioning Autistic myself I find this extremely insulting “CWC is the no.1 reason why society needs to find a cure for autism, or a way of identifying likely autistic children during conception so they can be aborted.”
There is no cure for high functioning autism because we are not sick. I ,for one have NOTHING wrong with me. I just am a little socially awkward but because I know this, I know to watch what I say and the way a act extra carefully.
With that said I agree with you that people do tend to use having autism as a crutch to often.
That being said, as a person he has no right to act the way he does and sad to say but he does give a bad image to people with high-functioning autism.
Thank the fucking mother, we have a representative in this.
Well said
Saying Autism is the poster boy for Autism is like saying Jeffrey Dahmer is the poster boy for the gay community.
This
first autism = CWC sorry typo brain fart mental block
Christian Weston Chandler posted a video on Little Big Planet 2 about Dr. Hans Asperger and the Asperger Community.
Watch this video to the very end and tell me your impressions
As always I’m late to the party. I’m not sure if you’ll see this, but I’d like to present my thoughts on the matter concerning CWC
No, I don’t believe CWC is the poster child for Autism or any of that. Hell, I still question whether he’s autistic at all. As I see it, CWC’s problem is his ego. He thinks his autism is some sort of ‘Get out of jail free card”, he uses it as some excuse for his unacceptable behavior or some bargining chip to get things he wants. I mean, this guy actually hates ‘OTHER autistics because he’s trying to use his condition to make himself feel and seem ‘special’.
Of all the people that CWC’s put up with, I think Mary Lee Walsh is the most prominent in his mind. While all the internet trolls play into his ego and self-created dillusions, Miss Walsh is the only one who hasn’t. Instead she blatanly points out that his behavior is unaccecptable and that he won’t achieve his desired results if he keeps on the path that he’s going.
Instead of taking her words to heart, CWC has instead endlessly lashed out about her and even made her a villain his badly drawn and even worse thoughtout comic then eventually maimed her.
Hell, this guy actually depicted a one-year old brutally torturing and maiming one the trolls that annoyed him right before she and her father mercilessly murdered him.
Crap, I forgot where I was going with this… Oh yeah; My point is, the problem with CWC is obviously not his autism (again I doubt he even IS autistic and this was even before I properly learned what autism was) but rather his inability to face facts with his life and situation and his lack of desire to change his behavior. Maybe he’s grown too comfortable with his lifestyle, maybe it’s from some false sense of entitlment.
We’ll never know
I’ve got just one question, Astrid: how did CWC blackmail you into singing his praises? Nobody who’s spent more than five minutes learning about this guy could possibly regard him with anything other than disgust or contempt.
I have an autistic brother and what my family did to make sure he would stop behaving like the lower life form Chris currently is, was electro collar therapy. When he would act up I would rush him and punch him square in the fac then tell him to quit being a burden on my mom. I would hug him then punch him a few minutes later right in his face so he knew pain would Be the response if you are gong to behave that way. He now manages Arbus and has a girlfriend. Autistic people, not all can probably learn faster from more animalistic traing like this.
I strongly disagree with you Steve. NO person desrves to be abused physically no matter how distrubing their behavior.
That doesn’t sound like discipline. sounds like some weird fetish……
I can’t believe what some of you people are saying, there are even xenophobic people in there trying to say that autism is a blight on society.
Well I have something to tell you you snakes, I am autistic and I am proud and saying that all autistic people are like CWC is just like saying all black men are going to mug you or all bisexual women are sluts. CWC is an awful person because he is spoiled and sheltered much like some nt. People with autism see the world differently and because of that we’ve made huge contributions to history. Did you know Charles Darwin was autistic? Also people like Einstein, and Newton were thought to had been autistic.
Also the writer of “The Steadfast Tin Soldier”, “The Snow Queen”, “The Little Mermaid”, “Thumbelina”, “The Little Match Girl”, and “The Ugly Duckling” Mr. Hans Christian Andersen. Henry Cavendish, a British scientist who was noted for his discovery of hydrogen had autism.
In short people with autism can and have proven to function if not thrive in nt society when given the chance and who is any who to say they can’t?
We are human beings after all.
Einstein wasn’t autistic, he was too much of a socialite and socialist for that. Instead of narrowly focusing on his special interest of physics, he *also* co-chaired the American Crusade to End Lynching with his *friend* Paul Robeson.
Go to http://www.einsteinonrace.com/ for some more information about Einstein’s social activism.
Why can’t Autistic people be socialists. I consider myself a socialist and a social activist and I am Autistic. While I wouldn’t call myself a socialite I do have friends. Many of us are socially awkward yes but when you start accomplishing things like Einstein did people want to be your friend and stop judging you and put up with your eccentricities. I honestly think a lot of Autistic people do better outside of school. School is such shallow bullshit, the world of real work gives you people an opportunity to prove themselves for something other than how pretty they look or if they can throw a ball or a party. Keep in mind millions of people especially older people are Autistic who have no intention of getting out of the Autistic closet they’re running NASA or Google or something and don’t want to get called retards . The terrible stigma that is displayed here, either getting pity or hate the dumbed down special ed classes none of that is actually help. As for all the people saying murder Autistic people burn them etc. Your just trying to be funny to be “shocking” well its not really funny and not really working. You sound like the same kind of idiotic stunted Man Child that is Chris-Chan, and If your a woman I meant the same thing you’re a man child. I have a job by the way so fuck all of you haters I bet a lot of you don’t I bet a lot of you had mommy and daddies who bought you a car and paid for your college I didn’t, I bet I am much much tougher than all of your lily white suburban asses and ten times smarter and infinitely more interesting, and I’ve been with plenty of women. Chris Chan may not even be Autistic I have my doubts but either way it doesn’t matter, it’s getting boring because the only one not in on the joke is him even Autistic have picked up on the fact its a fucking joke and it has run its course over the last FOUR years. I see these trolls like repetition of the same old thing over and over again, do they got Autism or something?
I’m a 26 year old female with Asperger’s and currently hunting Chris-Chan down. He was first mentioned to me by a faraway friend of mine in Michigan. I’m going to try and get the TRUTH from him and his parents. It’s obvious that this “sexual frustration kick” is not something I normally experience. However, I keep those to myself.
I have heard many a tale online about his hatred towards persons with Asperger’s. I’m not in college, but am wanting an education in Robotics, so I can advance AI and learn how to interact with the world in another way. (Robots are popular; seeing one accompany a person with Asperger’s is my first goal, how man and machine interact)
Sure, you can hear the good and the horrid online, however it shouldn’t be used to demoralize an individual. He’s yet to deal with this.
About prostitution: You see, I don’t think the feds would ever agree to “power down” the laws so ASD persons and neurotypicals should be an exception. If that were to happen, I would be more than likely raped because I don’t know how to defend myself. That’s what sets Aspies apart from others.
Either case, Chris-Chan (as he’s referenced) needs to be helped. I too, am a Virginian, where autism spectrum disabilities are not treated well. I grew up this way, and had been abused by the mentally ill, which is why I can actually RELATE to Mr. Chandler. Yes, we both live in SW Virginia, and we DO have the same issues. I’d advise to speak with him in person. I should actually know how this happened. I had very similar experiences, and do stay in my bedroom a lot, but I know what’s going on. That’s why I’m using an alias to track him down.
Alterna_Thunderfox
Oh, another thing…It seems that he sounds much like that VT shooter, Seung-Hui Cho, except that he’s the “Seung-Hui Cho of the Rapists, Prostitutes, and Mentally Ill”. I do believe that he’s just another paranoia schizophrenic, and I have no desire for them. In fact, it was a schizoid that had abused me. My own adoped grandmother (she’s now my guardian) did this to just teach me a lesson.
Now here I am, trying to figure out how to convince her of the ARC program, which helps persons with developmental disorders too “severe for society”. I do have profound Asperger’s and have been seriously injured emotionally and mentally. However, I’m resilient: I bounced back from my own grandfather’s death on my 24th birthday. He’s not in my mind much, but it goes to show the real power of Autism. It’s an Aspie that would save the world; it has been the norm for generations.
If more information is what you desire, surf to:
http://www.thearc.org
Alterna_Thunderfox
“Just another paranoid schizophrenic”? If only that were true. Chris-Chan makes Norman Bates look like a paragon of stability and calm. We can all consider ourselves extremely fortunate there are no guns in the Chandler household.
Well, he didn’t have to have “guns” of that sense, and I wonder if he was misdiagnosed. His “weapons of choice” just so happened to be those that destroyed families with emotional blackmail. Pure and simple, he’s the “Seung-Hui Cho of emotional blackmail”. His “sexual frustrations” will eventually land him in a ward somewhere. Trust me on this. If you REALLY want to hear the truth, I DID find his phone online, at a now-defunct “Sonichu” website. I know what I can do, though it WILL be risky; I usually prefer doing this type of investigation completely undercover; no, I don’t want people knowing that I’m matching wits with this punk that sodomizes Asperger’s as a racial slur. We may look like an alien race, but put it this way: We may be persons with very advanced intellegence. It’s just that, like extraplanetary beings in movies like “Aliens”, we show signs of intellegence that we usually are so frustrated over.
My relationship with Asperger’s is like that. Having it seems to alienate others; that people are too scared of me to even know how to befriend the world’s smartest minds. We Aspies are frustrated by intellegence more than sexual cravings; I’ve heard that Aspies are doing better independently rather than in a mutual relationships. It goes to show we’re very enlightened beings. We have an aural sense of reality, that we see what reality truly is.
It’s been a blessing and a curse being an Aspie. However, our struggle to see true justice still rages on…